I have presented the PDF titled “Alien Interview” to the readership. It is supposed to be the transcripts of the interview that a nurse had with an extraterrestrial entity that was recovered from a spaceship crash in Roswell, New Mexico. There is a lot of good stuff there, and some things that run counter to what I know and understand to be true. My intention here is to parse the entire book, and compare it to what I know. Where the two diverge, it will be up to you (the readership) to sort it out.
This is part 6.
This is part seven of the parsing of this document
You can view part 1 HERE.
ALIEN INTERVIEW, 30. 7. 1947, 1st Session
Immortal Spiritual Beings, which I refer to as “IS-BEs”, for the sake of convenience, are the source and creators of illusions. Each one, individually and collectively, in their original, unfettered state of being, are an eternal, all-powerful, all-knowing entity.
IS-BEs create space by imagining a location. The intervening distance between themselves and the imagined location is what we call space. An IS-BE can perceive the space and objects created by other IS-BEs.
IS-BEs are not physical universe entities. They are a source of energy and illusion. IS-BEs are not located in space or time, but can create space, place particles in space, create energy, and shape particles into various forms, cause the motion of forms, and animate forms. Any form that is animated by an IS-BE is called life.
I have no problem with this. Though I do realize just how difficult it is to understand.
An IS-BE can decide to agree that they are located in space or time, and that they, themselves, are an object, or any other manner of illusion created by themselves or another or other IS-BEs.
I have no problem with this.
The disadvantage of creating an illusion is that an illusion must be continually created. If not continually created, it disappears. Continual creation
of an illusion requires incessant attention to every detail of the illusion in order to sustain it.
Indeed. Entire books can be written on this subject.
A common denominator of IS-BEs seems to be the desire to avoid boredom. A spirit only, without interaction with other IS-BEs, and the unpredictable motion, drama, and unanticipated intentions and illusions being created by other IS-BEs, is easily bored.
This is a deep statement, and I guess, that it is wholly above the heads and minds of the Roswell military leadership present at the facility at that time.
What if you could imagine anything, perceive everything, and cause anything to happen, at will?
What if you couldn’t do anything else?
What if you always knew the outcome of every game and the answer to every question?
Would you get bored?
Yes. You would.
The entire back time track of IS-BEs is immeasurable, nearly infinite in terms of physical universe time. There is no measurable “beginning” or “end” for an IS-BE. They simply exist in an everlasting now.
Yes. I have no problems with this statement.
Another common denominator of IS-BEs is that admiration of one’s own illusions by others is very desirable.
If the desired admiration is not forthcoming, the IS-BE will keep creating the illusion in an attempt to get admiration.
One could say that the entire physical universe is made of unadmired illusions.
This is so very deep that it deserves complete indexes of articles to investigate further.
The origins of this universe began with the creation of individual, illusionary spaces.
Also known as the "Big Bang".
These were the “home” of the IS-BE.
Sometimes a universe is a collaborative creation of illusions by two or more IS-BEs.
A proliferation of IS-BEs, and the universes they create, sometimes collide or become commingled or merge to an extent that many IS-BEs shared in the co-creation of a universe.
Here we are discussing the creation of heavens and universes. And most strangely, I have dim recollections of events similar to what is described. Dim, curious, "memories" of a "something else".
IS-BEs diminish their ability in order to have a game to play.
Of course. You give up omnipotence for physical sensation.
IS-BEs think that any game is better than no game.
They will endure pain, suffering, stupidity, privation, and all manner of unnecessary and undesirable conditions, just to play a game.
Pretending that one does not know all, see all and cause all, is a way to create the conditions necessary for playing a game: unknowns, freedoms, barriers and/or opponents and goals.
Ultimately, playing a game solves the problem of boredom.
Reincarnation as a mortal being solves the problem of boredom. If you don't know what he is talking about, then perhaps a re-watching of the old Sean Connery movie "Zardoz" is in order.
In this fashion, all of the space, galaxies, suns, planets, and physical phenomena of this universe, including life forms, places, and events that have been created by IS-BEs…
…and sustained by mutual agreement that these things exist.
Sustained by mutual agreement.
There are as many universes as there are IS-BEs to imagine, build and perceive them, each existing concurrently within its own continuum.
Each universe is created using its own, unique set of rules, as imagined, altered, preserved or destroyed by one or more IS-BEs who created it.
This idea has been adopted by the scientific community as a given concerning "bubble universes".
Time, energy, objects and space, as defined in terms of the physical universe, may or may not exist in other universes.
Very true, and this is something that MM has stated repeatedly.
The Domain exists in such a universe, as well as in the physical universe.
Big stuff here. The Domain exists within a non-physical universe, and the physical universe as well.
One of the rules of the physical universe is that energy can be created, but not destroyed.
E=mc2
So, the universe will keep expanding as long as IS-BEs keep adding more new energy into it.
This physical universe is ever expanding.
It is nearly infinite. It is like an automobile assembly line that never stops running and none of the cars are ever destroyed.
Every IS-BE is basically good.
Therefore, an IS-BE does not enjoy doing things to other IS-BEs which they themselves do not want to experience.
A consciousness does not enjoy doing things to others which they do not want to experience. Hum. Unless, they have no recollection of their past.
For an IS-BE there is no inherent standard for what is good or bad, right or wrong, ugly or beautiful. These ideas are all based on the opinion of each individual IS-BE.
Beauty is in the beholder. Good and bad is as determined by the consciousness.
The closest concept that human beings have to describe an IS-BE is as a god: all-knowing, all-powerful, infinite. So, how does a god stop being a god? They pretend NOT to know.
How can you play a game of “hide and seek” if you always know where the other person is hiding?
You pretend NOT to know where the other players are hiding, so you can go off to “seek” them.
This is how games are created.
You have forgotten that you are just “pretending”.
In so doing, IS-BEs become entrapped and enslaved inside a maze of their own devising.
All of this is very deep and a very in-depth discussion and conversation that must have been way, way above the heads of the Roswell military leadership at that time.
How does one create a cage, lock one’s own self inside the cage, throw away the key, and forget there is a key or a cage, and forget there is an “inside” or “outside”, and even forget there is a self?
How to do this?
Create the illusion.
As in the Earth Sphere.
On Earth, the propaganda taught and agreed upon is that the gods are responsible, and that human beings are not responsible. You are taught that only a god can create universes. So, the responsibility for every action is assigned to another IS-BE or god.
Never oneself.
No human being ever assumes personal responsibility for the fact that they, themselves – individually and collectively – are gods. This fact alone is the source of entrapment for every IS-BE.
Thus, as I have repeatedly stated in MM, it's all your life and soul and consciousness and pre-birth world-line template. And you have the means and the ability to define your life, your future and your happiness. You do. No others.
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MM, a few years ago there was a dude named Avalon Sol who was basically saying the same things as you and Airl (and my handlers); he even had a similar quantum technology he was explaining which equated to the way we are taught to write is all wrong, like , the way we learn to trace letters has some sort of quantum effect on our consciousness that keeps up the illusion (i have some of his “mission briefings” on this same tech lying around somewhere). So far he is the only one that I am aware of that claims an alternate motive for Airl, rather than her being the benevolent entity she makes herself out to be. According to Avalon Sol, aka Mission Guide, Airl was actually a Zeta Reticulan grey that had just come from enslaving another a “universe” with the very same tactics she is talking about.
Sol randomly just disappeared from the web just before the pandemic hit, but some of his articles were saved on various sites – there is a twitter account called decosing the hive which i believe is in honour of his disclosure campaign – the original claim to his disclosure effort can be found here:
https://tribunilapulapu.freeforums.net/thread/1352/avalon-sol-full-disclosure?fbclid=IwAR3_youHcS4oHUrvMTzXfDkBzG6bepwzDHKenNLTfMvI2QUhA2RVEY6FF5I
and here:
https://tribunilapulapu.freeforums.net/thread/600/avalon-mission-guide
and his write up on Airl here:
https://tribunilapulapu.freeforums.net/thread/1331/real-interview-alien
I am wondering what you think of these claims that Airl was actually more negative then she was making herself out to be (but then I guess that doesn’t really explain why she would let such a big secret out to the those military guys at Roswell.), or if there is anythign in Avalon’s info that you are allowed to either confirm or deny.
Cheers
DM
Thank you for this. The talks about his father and his father’s experience with Roswell. And that makes sense. But that’s pretty much the extent of it.
However, much of everything else that is discussed seems like bullshit to me…
Bullshit, but I will need to investigate further. If he starts talking about “reptilians” I’m going to hurl.
I only know what I know. And what I know is that [1] humans have everything they need to know right now. [2] It’s an MWI reality. [3] There are complexities in regards to other states, lives, and species. But none of that is our concern. [4] Why is everyone so worried about the XXXXX of planet federation HHHH in regards to issue RRRRR? It’s bullshit. All than any human need concern themselves with is THEMSELVES only. Thus the following looks to me like absolute and complete bullshit. Tell me, explain to me, how it improves the lives of humans now?
Jesus!
I’m sorry, DM. I hear ya on lots you have to say, but in this particular instance you lost me as soon as I read “Avalon Sol”.
Colour me an old cynic, but that nomenclature right there is a stretch too far for me.
@Ultan, no no not cynical at all. I was actually hoping MM would tear Avalon’s message to pieces because I also felt it was all a load of total bullshit coming from him. I just wanted clarification on whether there was anything worth holding onto as I am aware he ripped most of his “theories” off another woman (can’t remember her name) who I don’t know much about (he even had one person calling him a complete fraud at one point)….so we can all agree we are all on the same page here. Seems to me since Corey Goode came out about what he knows, there have been many trying to profit off his “dislclosure”. Thanks for clarifying your position on this MM.
Honestly, I hate to tear apart other’s belief systems. But when you all enter onto “my turf”, I just cannot hold back. If someone tells me that China is a dirty sewer shit hole full of criminals and thieves, I’m going to call them on it. If they are going to tell me that the President of the Untied States was ordained by God to rule the world, I will call them out on it, and if they way that they have knowledge of extraterrestrials than I will call them out on it. There’s a lot of bullshit in this world. And as bad as it is, the last thing we need is for profiteers and fame-seekers to try to profit from the needs of searchers.
@Ultan, no no not cynical at all. I was actually hoping MM would tear Avalon’s message to pieces because I also felt it was all a load of total bullshit coming from him. I just wanted clarification on whether there was anything worth holding onto as I am aware he ripped most of his “theories” off another woman (can’t remember her name) who I don’t know much about….so we can all agree we are on the same page here. Seems to me since Corey Goode came out about what he knows, there have been many trying to profit off his “dislclosure”
not that i trust much of what Goode says either
Goode: profiteering stooge… possibly completely “handled.”
To understand what I think about Corey Goode you need to read my entire MAJestic index. Within it is an article titled “An Army of fake disclosures“. It’s hard to miss. It’s the very first FUCKING article in the index. And in it, I discuss Corey Goode. The next article is about “Commander X“, where I continue down the “extraterrestrial rabbit hole” and how to avoid getting side-tracked.
In the MAJestic Index, I spend the very first part of it teaching how to DISCERN. Yet, one-hitters come to the MM site and don’t even bother reading this all important section. I don’t blame them really. Thy don’t know any better, and what I really need is flashing GIFs that tell everyone where to go and why.
I don’t expect everyone to read everything that I have written. But I do expect everyone to make an effort to read the entire MAJestic index before they start commenting about other-worldly matters.
I have said it over and over again before. This is NOT your run-of-the-mill UFO/extraterrestrial bullshit webpage. And to understand why it is different, you need to know what it is all about, and why.
I do NOT have all the answers, but Lordy, I do have some really good Intel that I can share. And to treat this MM site as just another one of ten thousand for-profit hoaxters is an insult to me, the site and long term visitors here.
Not you, of course. But I get so many trivial readers. “One-stop hit-and-miss then move on to CNN” type folk.
MM yes, I understand completely how frustrating that must be. I read both the ones about Goode and Commander X., hence why I said I don’t trust much of what Goode say. If I hadn’t read your article my comment would have said I don’t trust any of it (given that you said it had elements in it that were solid). But yes, sorry to open a shitstorm with my original comment, that wasn’t my intention; my intention was to see if you were on the same page as me with it all. Seeing as you are and Ultan is, I am content knowing that I am not supporting another “run of the mill UFO bullshit webpage” (though i already knew that anyway ;)). And yes, your intel is primo, thank you for sharing it all. I am on board with your disclosure campaign 100%.
Do not apologize. I kind of wanted to vent, and your comment enabled me to do so. So all is good. I am a human like you are, and I have good days, and feelings, and emotions and viewpoints. As you can well see.
Thanks again. so much information. too much information. well, I guess we need to control the flow. not all look legit in this interview, but I trust your opinion on this. not that I think as you do, you taught us better. Yet as you approve, I give more credibility to the things that are stated.
One thing that I have found strange, humans as ISBE, well we used to have, lets say around millions of humans on earth, even in the good times. since a century or so we are expending from hundreds of millions to billions, currently seven billion human beings. so seven billion new souls? conciseness’s? ISBE? seven billion is be created from nowhere or just fractions of souls/ISBE? I can understand if the number stays or changes a bit but this expansion, look at the graph I attached, it is very clear.
My questions are, What am I, what are we? same I guess concern you and all humans reading this now? are other fractions of our soul/ISBE exist not only in other incarnations but in other forms of life right now? because I can not understand where all this new, six billion humans (and we among them) popped up in just a century or so ..
I remember you wrote that the soul is to create consciousness for experience then the physical body die and this repeats itself. then, one for each? I am a fraction of my soul, I do get it, but where are all the other fractures? this is where I see difference between ISBE theory placed here to what you where teaching -which made and still make more sense to me).
Best,
Dani/ex ISBE/confused ISBE/Galactic nomad/whatever I may be 🙂
A final comment. I will tell you DEFINITELY, without any hesitation, that neither the type-1, type-2, type-3, or Mantids talked like the gaffle-blab that is coming from this “enlightened being”. And if you don’t believe me, compare it to the Alien Agenda transcripts.
You all want to know how they actually talk? It’s like this…
it is NOT…
Are you able to discern the difference?
I suspect Daegon has been down a few rabbit holes, like all of us, and is only catching up in seeking which are fruitful, and which need to be exited post haste!
Yes. Like all of us.
It became self-evident to me early in my life – so early, I don’t remember when – two fundamental ideas:
The ideas presented here thus don’t seem foreign to me. Only the scale and the detail being revealed are astounding.
I agree with this.
In reading Airl’s statements from the interview, there is a lot that needs to be placed in translation perspective. MM points out how very much of the material is specifically tailored to be understood by men immersed in the 1947 MIC. One very jarring example is Airl’s description of competing corporations inventing and selling life-forms to order, as well as on speculation, with American-sounding business names and relationships, BILLIONS of years in her past. This has the character of an over-simplified fable meant to be understood specifically by us, because the actual, literal facts of her experiences would otherwise be simply incomprehensible. Do we have here a window into the sources of so many legends and fables? Airl herself explicitly described the Vedic Hymns as such, without any mystery or doubt.
Likewise, our concept of time is so absolute as to render us incapable of thinking outside of it. In every description she qualifies the idea of ‘timelessness’, and then all of the translations necessarily inject the concept because there is no human communication without it. And so, ‘creating universes’ becomes ‘big bang’…facetious or not.
“IS-BEs create space by imagining a location. The intervening distance between themselves and the imagined location is what we call space. An IS-BE can perceive the space and objects created by other IS-BEs.”
Exactly like the Navigators in Dune. Good old Frank Herbert also had a hotline to those in the Know, too, obviously. The Navigator imagines the destination, simply put, and transports the spacecraft and its human passengers practically instantaneously regardless of distance.
Always struggled with the technicals of that which Herbert himself was scant on, but now we know exactly how they accomplished it. Arl, too, it seems going by her narrative.
Thanks yet again for this , Mr Man.
IS-BEs is where it is.
IS = not was, not when, not then, not before, not after just here.
BE = not someone else, just honest, true beyond our thoughts but embracing the eternal “truth”.
Maybe “IS-BE” is simply the “Being here now”.
Happy to share your thoughts.
Personally, I hate the terminology. I know why it chose this terminology in 1947 when dealing with Roswell military leaderships and government people. They had a lot of baggage that the improper or indiscriminate use of alternative words would crate “mind freezes” and lock the conversation in some kind of protestant religious framework.
He / it is referring to consciousness associated with soul. So it’s consciousness. Which is as I have discussed capable of two states, and is not tied to any physical or non-physical state unless it is purposely tuned to it.
Use of new terms, fabricated terms, are for the pleasure of the listener or the reader to understand. When discussions get complex, the best thing to do is to keep things basics and refer to already established conventional vocabulary with caveats on how the vocabulary and words are used.
Bullshit…
This is bullshit. Is shit. Is babble-gab.
The way it should be done…
Is accurate. Explains what is going on to our understanding. Is simple and concise.
The best way to communicate an understanding of what an IS-BE is, is to use the term “consciousness”. It it most appropriate for conventional internet-connected humans in 2021.
You could be right.
I always find that the effort to understanding a new concept can be challenging but once I understand it, it’s all so simple. The effort was in ditching the dearly held crap in my perception!
Your to the point example is it!
Less is more.
Don’t think feel … B. Lee