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The Real Reason America Used Nuclear Weapons Against Japan. It Was Not To End the War Or Save Lives.

Yet another great article on America. This one smashes the neocon narrative that nukes were needed to save lives during World War II. You know, as time moves forward, and the ruling oligarchy becomes stranger and stranger, we (us normal’s) sit back and are amazed just how “hood-winked” they kept us all. They told us that we needed to use nuclear weapons. They told us that we had to fight for democracy. They told us that eight simultaneous wars were necessary. They tell us that we are winning the war in Afghanistan after nearly twenty years of occupation. They have been stringing us along this entire time.

This is a great article titled “The Real Reason America Used Nuclear Weapons Against Japan. It Was Not To End the War Or Save Lives.” It was published on February 10, 2020 by Enrique Suarez and can be found HERE. I would suggest that any reader who likes this article to go to the source and pay the author a visit. I am sure that he has other pieces of value.

Enrique Suarez Note: Washington's Blog understands that "The Unexamined Life is Not Worth Living"  (Socrates).

By Washington's Blog

Global Research, February 09, 2020

Washington's Blog and Global Research 12 October 2012

Relevant article selected from the GR archive first published on Washington Blog and Global Research in October 2012.

Atomic Weapons Were Not Needed to End the War or Save Lives

Like all Americans, I was taught that the U.S. dropped nuclear bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki in order to end WWII and save both American and Japanese lives.

But most of the top American military officials at the time said otherwise.

The U.S. Strategic Bombing Survey group, assigned by President Truman to study the air attacks on Japan, produced a report in July of 1946 that concluded (52-56):

Based  on a detailed investigation of all the facts and supported by the  testimony of the surviving Japanese leaders involved, it is the Survey’s  opinion that certainly prior to 31 December 1945 and in all probability  prior to 1 November 1945, Japan would have surrendered even if the atomic bombs had not been dropped, even if Russia had not entered the war, and even if no invasion had been planned or contemplated.

General (and later president) Dwight Eisenhower – then Supreme Commander of all Allied Forces, and the officer who created most of America’s WWII military plans for Europe and Japan – said:

The Japanese were ready to surrender and it wasn’t necessary to hit them with that awful thing.

-Newsweek, 11/11/63, Ike on Ike

Eisenhower also noted (pg. 380):

In  [July] 1945… Secretary of War Stimson, visiting my headquarters in Germany, informed me that our government was preparing to drop an atomic bomb on Japan. 

I was one of those who felt that there were a number of cogent reasons to question the wisdom of such an act. …the Secretary, upon giving me the news of the successful bomb test in New Mexico, and of the plan for using it, asked for my reaction, apparently expecting a vigorous assent.

During his recitation of the relevant facts, I had been conscious of a feeling of depression and so I voiced to him my  grave misgivings, first on the basis of my belief that Japan was  already defeated and that dropping the bomb was completely unnecessary,  and secondly because I thought that our country should avoid shocking  world opinion by the use of a weapon whose employment was, I thought, no  longer mandatory as a measure to save American lives. 

It was my belief  that Japan was, at that very moment, seeking some way to surrender with a  minimum loss of ‘face’. The Secretary was deeply perturbed by my attitude…. 

Admiral William Leahy – the highest-ranking member of the U.S. military from 1942 until retiring in 1949, who was the first de facto Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and who was at the center of all major American military decisions in World War II – wrote (pg. 441):

It  is my opinion that the use of this barbarous weapon at Hiroshima and  Nagasaki was of no material assistance in our war against Japan. 

The  Japanese were already defeated and ready to surrender because of the  effective sea blockade and the successful bombing with conventional  weapons.

The lethal possibilities of atomic warfare in  the future are frightening. 

My own feeling was that in being the first  to use it, we had adopted an ethical standard common to the barbarians  of the Dark Ages. 

I was not taught to make war in that fashion, and wars  cannot be won by destroying women and children.

General Douglas MacArthur agreed (pg. 65, 70-71):

MacArthur’s  views about the decision to drop the atomic bomb on Hiroshima and  Nagasaki were starkly different from what the general public supposed  …. 

When I asked General MacArthur about the decision to drop the  bomb, I was surprised to learn he had not even been consulted. What, I  asked, would his advice have been? 

He replied that he saw no military justification for the dropping of the bomb. The war might have  ended weeks earlier, he said, if the United States had agreed, as it  later did anyway, to the retention of the institution of the emperor.

Moreover (pg. 512):

The Potsdam declaration in July, demand[ed] that Japan surrenders 
unconditionally or face ‘prompt and utter destruction.’ MacArthur was appalled. 

He knew that the Japanese would never renounce their emperor and that without him an orderly transition to peace would be impossible anyhow because his people would never submit to Allied occupation unless he ordered it. 

Ironically, when the surrender did come, it was conditional, and the condition was a continuation of the imperial reign. Had the General’s advice been followed, the resort to atomic weapons at Hiroshima and Nagasaki might have been unnecessary.

Similarly, Assistant Secretary of War John McLoy noted (pg. 500):

I  have always felt that if in our ultimatum to the Japanese government  issued from Potsdam [in July 1945], we had referred to the retention of  the emperor as a constitutional monarchy and had made some reference to  the reasonable accessibility of raw materials to the future Japanese  government, it would have been accepted. 

Indeed, I believe that even in  the form it was delivered, there was some disposition on the part of the  Japanese to give it favorable consideration. 

When the war was over I  arrived at this conclusion after talking with a number of Japanese  officials who had been closely associated with the decision of the then  Japanese government, to reject the ultimatum, as it was presented. 

I  believe we missed the opportunity of effecting a Japanese surrender,  completely satisfactory to us, without the necessity of dropping the  bombs.

Under Secretary of the Navy Ralph Bird said:

I  think that the Japanese were ready for peace, and they already had  approached the Russians and, I think, the Swiss. And that suggestion of a warning [of the atomic bomb] was a face-saving proposition  for them, and one that they could have readily accepted.

In my opinion, the Japanese war was really won before we ever used the atomic bomb. Thus, it wouldn’t have been necessary for us to disclose our nuclear position and stimulate the Russians to develop the same thing much more rapidly than they would have if we had not dropped the bomb. 

- War Was Really Won Before We Used A-Bomb, U.S. News and World Report, 8/15/60, pg. 73-75. 
Hiroshima, after America improved it "for democracy".
Hiroshima, after America improved it “for democracy”.

He also noted (pg. 144-145, 324):

It  definitely seemed to me that the Japanese were becoming weaker and  weaker. They were surrounded by the Navy. They couldn’t get any imports  and they couldn’t export anything. 

Naturally, as time went on and the  war developed in our favor it was quite logical to hope and expect that  with the proper kind of a warning the Japanese would then be in a  position to make peace, which would have made it unnecessary for us to drop the bomb and have had to bring Russia in.

General Curtis LeMay, the tough cigar-smoking Army Air Force “hawk,” stated publicly shortly before the nuclear bombs were dropped on Japan:

The war would have been over in two weeks. . . . The atomic bomb had nothing to do with the end of the war at all.

The Vice Chairman of the U.S. Bombing Survey Paul Nitze wrote (pg. 36-37, 44-45):

[I] concluded that even without the atomic bomb, Japan was likely to surrender in a matter of months. My own view was that Japan would capitulate by November 1945. ... Even  without the attacks on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, it seemed highly   unlikely, given what we found to have been the mood of the Japanese   government, that a U.S. invasion of the islands [scheduled for November   1, 1945] would have been necessary. 

Deputy Director of the Office of Naval Intelligence Ellis Zacharias wrote:

Just  when the Japanese were ready to capitulate, we went ahead and  introduced to the world the most devastating weapon it had ever seen  and, in effect, gave the go-ahead to Russia to swarm over Eastern Asia.

Washington decided that Japan had been given its chance and now it was time to use the A-bomb.

I submit that it was the wrong decision. It was wrong on strategic grounds. And it was wrong on humanitarian grounds.

-Ellis Zacharias, How We Bungled the Japanese Surrender, Look (magazine), 6/6/50, pg. 19-21. 

Brigadier General Carter Clarke – the military intelligence officer in charge of preparing summaries of intercepted Japanese cables for President Truman and his advisors – said (pg. 359):

When we didn’t need to do it, and we knew we didn’t need to do it, and they knew that we knew we didn’t need to do it, we used them as an experiment for two atomic bombs.

Many other high-level military officers concurred. For example:

The commander in chief of the U.S. Fleet and Chief of Naval Operations, Ernest J. King, stated that the naval blockade and prior bombing of Japan in March of 1945, had rendered the Japanese helpless and that the use of the atomic bomb was both unnecessary and immoral. 

Also, the opinion of Fleet Admiral Chester W. Nimitz was reported to have said in a press conference on September 22, 1945, that “The Admiral took the opportunity of adding his voice to those insisting that Japan had been defeated before the atomic bombing and Russia’s entry into the war.” 

In a subsequent speech at the Washington Monument on October 5, 1945, Admiral Nimitz stated: “The Japanese had, in fact, already sued for peace before the atomic age was announced to the world with the destruction of Hiroshima and before the Russian entry into the war.” 

It was learned also that on or about July 20, 1945, General Eisenhower had urged Truman, in a personal visit, not to use the atomic bomb. 

Eisenhower’s assessment was “It wasn’t necessary to hit them with that awful thing . . . to use the atomic bomb, to kill and terrorize civilians, without even attempting [negotiations], was a double crime.” 

Eisenhower also stated that it wasn’t necessary for Truman to “succumb” to [the tiny handful of people putting pressure on the president to drop atom bombs on Japan.]

British officers were of the same mind. For example, General Sir Hastings Ismay, Chief of Staff to the British Minister of Defense, said to Prime Minister Churchill that…

 “when Russia came into the war against  Japan, the Japanese would probably wish to get out on almost any terms  short of the dethronement of the Emperor.”

On hearing that the atomic test was successful, Ismay’s private reaction was one of “revulsion.”

Why Were Bombs Dropped on Populated Cities Without Military Value?

Even military officers who favored the use of nuclear weapons mainly favored using them on unpopulated areas or Japanese military targets … not cities.

For example, Special Assistant to the Secretary of the Navy Lewis Strauss proposed to Secretary of the Navy James Forrestal that a non-lethal demonstration of atomic weapons would be enough to convince the Japanese to surrender … and the Navy Secretary agreed (pg. 145, 325):

I  proposed to Secretary Forrestal that the weapon should be demonstrated  before it was used. Primarily it was because it was clear to a number of  people, myself among them, that the war was very nearly over. 

The  Japanese were nearly ready to capitulate… 

My proposal to the Secretary  was that the weapon should be demonstrated over some area accessible to  Japanese observers and where its effects would be dramatic. 

I remember  suggesting that a satisfactory place for such a demonstration would be a  large forest of cryptomeria trees not far from Tokyo. 

The cryptomeria  tree is the Japanese version of our redwood… 

I anticipated that a bomb  detonated at a suitable height above such a forest… would lay the trees  out in windrows from the center of the explosion in all directions as  though they were matchsticks, and, of course, set them afire in the  center. 

It seemed to me that a demonstration of this sort would prove to  the Japanese that we could destroy any of their cities at will… 

Secretary Forrestal agreed wholeheartedly with the recommendation…

It seemed to me that such a weapon was not necessary to bring the war to a successful conclusion, that once used it would find its way into the armaments of the world…

General George Marshall agreed:

Contemporary documents show that Marshall felt “these weapons might first be used against straight military objectives such as a large naval installation and then if no complete result was derived from the effect of that, he thought we ought to designate a number of large manufacturing areas from which the people would be warned to leave–telling the Japanese that we intend to destroy such centers….”

As the document concerning Marshall’s views suggests, the question of whether the use of the atomic bomb was justified turns … on whether the bombs had to be used against a largely civilian target rather than a strictly military target—which, in fact, was the explicit choice since although there were Japanese troops in the cities, neither Hiroshima nor Nagasaki was deemed militarily vital by U.S. planners.

(This is one of the reasons neither had been heavily bombed up to this point in the war.)

Moreover, targeting [at Hiroshima and Nagasaki] was aimed explicitly on non-military facilities surrounded by workers’ homes.

Historians Agree that the Bomb Wasn’t Needed

Historians agree that nuclear weapons did not need to be used to stop the war or save lives.

As historian Doug Long notes:

U.S.  Nuclear Regulatory Commission historian J. Samuel Walker has studied  the history of research on the decision to use nuclear weapons on Japan.  

In his conclusion, he writes, “The consensus among scholars is  that the bomb was not needed to avoid an invasion of Japan and to end  the war within a relatively short time. It is clear that alternatives to  the bomb existed and that Truman and his advisors knew it.” 

-J. Samuel Walker, The Decision to Use the Bomb: A Historiographical Update, Diplomatic History, Winter 1990, pg. 110).

Politicians Agreed

Many high-level politicians agreed. For example, Herbert Hoover said (pg. 142):

The  Japanese were prepared to negotiate all the way from February 1945…up  to and before the time the atomic bombs were dropped; 

…if such leads had  been followed up, there would have been no occasion to drop the [atomic] bombs.

Under Secretary of State Joseph Grew noted (pg. 29-32):

In the light of available evidence I myself and others felt that if such a categorical statement about the [retention of the] dynasty had been issued in May 1945, the surrender-minded elements in the [Japanese] government might well have been afforded by such a statement a valid reason and the necessary strength to come to an early clear-cut decision.

If surrender could have been brought about in May 1945, or even in June or July, before the entrance of Soviet Russia into the [Pacific] war and the use of the atomic bomb, the world would have been the gainer.

Why Then Were Atom Bombs Dropped on Japan?

If dropping nuclear bombs was unnecessary to end the war or to save lives, why was the decision to drop them made? Especially over the objections of so many top military and political figures?

One theory is that scientists like to play with their toys:

On September 9, 1945, Admiral William F. Halsey, commander of the Third Fleet, was publicly quoted extensively as stating that the atomic bomb was used because the scientists had a “toy and they wanted to try it out . . . .” 

He further stated, “The first atomic bomb was an unnecessary experiment . . . . It was a mistake to ever drop it.”

However, most of the Manhattan Project scientists who developed the atom bomb were opposed to using it on Japan.

Albert Einstein – an important catalyst for the development of the atom bomb (but not directly connected with the Manhattan Project) – said differently:

“A great majority of scientists were opposed to the sudden employment of the atom bomb.” In Einstein’s judgment, the dropping of the bomb was a political-diplomatic decision rather than a military or scientific decision.

Indeed, some of the Manhattan Project scientists wrote directly to the secretary of defense in 1945 to try to dissuade him from dropping the bomb:

We  believe that these considerations make the use of nuclear bombs for an  early, unannounced attack against Japan inadvisable. If the United  States would be the first to release this new means of indiscriminate  destruction upon mankind, she would sacrifice public support throughout the world, precipitate the race of armaments, and prejudice the  possibility of reaching an international agreement on the future control  of such weapons. 

-Political and Social Problems, Manhattan Engineer District Records, Harrison-Bundy files, folder # 76, National Archives (also contained in Martin Sherwin, A World Destroyed, 1987 edition, pg. 323-333).

The scientists questioned the ability to destroy Japanese cities with atomic bombs to bring surrender when destroying Japanese cities with conventional bombs had not done so, and – like some of the military officers quoted above – recommended a demonstration of the atomic bomb for Japan in an unpopulated area.

The Real Explanation?

History.com notes:

In  the years since the two atomic bombs were dropped on Japan, a number of  historians have suggested that the weapons had a two-pronged objective  …. 

It has been suggested that the second objective was to demonstrate the new weapon of mass destruction to the Soviet Union.  

By August 1945, relations between the Soviet Union and the United  States had deteriorated badly. 

The Potsdam Conference between U.S.  President Harry S. Truman, Russian leader Joseph Stalin, and Winston  Churchill (before being replaced by Clement Attlee) ended just four days  before the bombing of Hiroshima. 

The meeting was marked by  recriminations and suspicion between the Americans and the Soviets.  

Russian armies were occupying most of Eastern Europe. Truman and  many of his advisers hoped that the U.S. atomic monopoly might offer  diplomatic leverage with the Soviets. 

In this fashion, the dropping of  the atomic bomb on Japan can be seen as the first shot of the Cold War.

New Scientist reported in 2005:

The US decision to drop atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945 was meant to kick-start the Cold War rather  than end the Second World War, according to two nuclear historians who  say they have new evidence backing the controversial theory.

Causing a fission reaction in several kilograms of uranium and plutonium and killing over 200,000 people 60 years ago was done more to impress the Soviet Union than to cow Japan, they say. 

And the US President who took the decision, Harry Truman, was culpable, they add.“He  knew he was beginning the process of annihilation of the species,” says  Peter Kuznick, director of the Nuclear Studies Institute at American  University in Washington DC, US. 

“It was not just a war crime; it was a  crime against humanity.”

...

[The  conventional explanation of using the bombs to end the war and save  lives] is disputed by Kuznick and Mark Selden, a historian from Cornell  University in Ithaca, New York, US.

...

New studies of the US, Japanese and Soviet diplomatic archives suggest that Truman’s main motive was to limit Soviet expansion in Asia,  Kuznick claims. 

Japan surrendered because the Soviet Union began an  invasion a few days after the Hiroshima bombing, not because of the  atomic bombs themselves, he says.

According to an account by  Walter Brown, assistant to the then-US secretary of state James Byrnes,  Truman agreed at a meeting three days before the bomb was dropped on  Hiroshima that Japan was “looking for peace”. 

Truman was told by his  army generals, Douglas Macarthur and Dwight Eisenhower, and his naval  chief of staff, William Leahy, that there was no military need to use the bomb.“Impressing Russia was more important than ending the war in Japan,” says Selden.
Hiroshima, after America improved it "for democracy".
Hiroshima, after America improved it “for democracy”.

John Pilger points out:

The  US secretary of war, Henry Stimson, told President Truman he was  “fearful” that the US air force would have Japan so “bombed out” that  the new weapon would not be able “to show its strength”. 

He later  admitted that “no effort was made, and none was seriously considered, to  achieve surrender merely in order not to have to use the bomb”. 

His  foreign policy colleagues were eager “to browbeat the Russians with the bomb held rather ostentatiously on our hip”. 

General Leslie Groves, director of the Manhattan Project that made the bomb, testified: 

“There was never any illusion on my part that Russia was our enemy, and that the project was conducted on that basis.” 

The  day after Hiroshima was obliterated, President Truman voiced his  satisfaction with the “overwhelming success” of “the experiment”.

We’ll give the last word to University of Maryland professor of political economy – and former Legislative Director in the U.S. House of Representatives and the U.S. Senate, and Special Assistant in the Department of State – Gar Alperovitz:

Though most Americans are unaware of the fact, increasing numbers of historians now recognize the United States did not need to use the atomic bomb to end the war against Japan in 1945. 

Moreover, this essential judgment was expressed by the vast majority of top American military leaders in all three services in the years after the war ended:
 
Army, Navy and Army Air Force. Nor was this the judgment of “liberals,” as is sometimes thought today. In fact, leading conservatives were far more outspoken in challenging the decision as unjustified and immoral than American liberals in the years following World War II.

...

Instead [of allowing other options to end the war, such as letting the Soviets attack Japan with ground forces]

 , the United States rushed to use two  atomic bombs at almost exactly  the time that an August 8 Soviet attack  had originally been scheduled:  

Hiroshima on August 6 and Nagasaki on  August 9. The timing itself has  obviously raised questions among many  historians. 

The available  evidence, though not conclusive, strongly  suggests that the atomic  bombs may well have been used in part because  American leaders  “preferred”—as Pulitzer Prize-winning historian Martin  Sherwin has put  it

—to end the war with the bombs rather than the Soviet  attack.  

Impressing the Soviets during the early diplomatic sparring that   ultimately became the Cold War also appears likely to have been a   significant factor. 

...

The most  illuminating perspective, however, comes from top World War II American  military leaders. The conventional wisdom that the atomic bomb saved a  million lives is so widespread that … 

...most Americans haven’t paused to  ponder something rather striking to anyone seriously concerned with the  issue: 

Not only did most top U.S. military leaders think the bombings  were unnecessary and unjustified, but many were also morally offended by  what they regarded as the unnecessary destruction of Japanese cities  and what were essentially noncombat populations. 

Moreover, they spoke  about it quite openly and publicly.

Shortly  before his death General George C. Marshall quietly defended  the  decision, but for the most part, he is on record as repeatedly  saying  that it was not a military decision, but rather a political one. 

The original source of this article is Washington’s Blog and Global Research

Conclusion

We can see now that the civilian government of America did not want to use the nuclear bomb, or any such weapons. They felt that [1] they were not necessary, and [2] they should be used only against military targets.

They were not alone. Even Adolf Hitler felt this way.

Hitler actually told his scientists to abandon the project after German scientists learned how to split atoms in 1938.   

"When Dr. Todt visited me I read that the energy set free by such a bomb  could destroy an area as large as the state of Arizona or make as big a  crater as the meteor had caused in Siberia. That means that all life  within such an area would be destroyed, not only humans but all life,  but animals and plants would not be able to live within a radius of 40  km for hundreds of years due to radiation. That would mean an  Apocalypse. 

No land, no group of civilized people could bear the  responsibility for such a slaughter. In battle after battle human beings  would destroy themselves if such a bomb were used." 

- A. Hitler 
youtube. com/watch?v=sVVwrhdS5DU 

Now, somehow in the 70+ years since World War II, the American government has developed a completely different mindset. It is one where there are no differences between civilian targets and military targets. Instead, you totally devastate a nation using whatever means available. Then you “police it” using military forces while you steal it’s resources for your benefit.

We can see this new philosophy played out in all the many, many wars since World War II. Whether it is Yemen, Vietnam, Syria, Libya, or Afghanistan, the wars devastate civilians and military forces alike and no discernment is provided to minimize civilian casualties.

With a neocon administration under president Trump, we can clearly see that this identical and same philosophy being present when the coronavirus was unleashed on an unsuspecting China during the annual Chinese migration in 2020…

Was the 2020 Wuhan Coronavirus an engineered biological attack on China by America for geopolitical advantage?
It does seem farfetched, doesn't it? That the United States will risk World War III, using nuclear weapons, by launching a coronavirus inside China during the 2020 Chinese New Year celebrations? But that is exactly the scenario that I fear has occurred. Here we discuss this horror. If this is the actual case, and it is actually intentionally engineered and used against China, it means that the USA is flirting with global nuclear annihilation. This is nothing that should be treated lightly.

People! Whenever you decide that wars (hot, trade or economic) can be won using WMD’s (Weapons of Mass Destruction), and…

…and you intentionally unleash them on civilians…

… you live in a nation of madmen.

neocon negotiation team.
Trump’s neocon negotiation team.

And nothing good will ever come of their actions, or your participation (active, or inactive), in it.

The universe has a way of evening the score, and whether you agree or not, you must certainly agree that targeting infants, young mothers, old men and women, and school children is wrong.

It’s not “collateral damage” it’s an evil. And if our government is involved in these kinds of activities then it is evil too.

We are all judged when we die.

We all have to face up to, and defend our lives. What will you say when asked about how you stood by and permitted these crimes to occur?

Defending Your Life is one of the best movies of all time. However, the message is not about the afterlife but very much about your life now. Especially if you believe that you live only once, the message in this movie should speak to you even more, because that means there is only one chance, and if you fear to much to take it, well, that's that. Let's realize folks: Life has so much to offer us.
Defending Your Life is one of the best movies of all time. However, the message is not about the afterlife but very much about your life now. Especially if you believe that you live only once, the message in this movie should speak to you even more, because that means there is only one chance, and if you fear to much to take it, well, that’s that. Let’s realize folks: Life has so much to offer us.

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History Buff

Interesting article apparently written by a Mr. Enrique Suarez.

So Adolph Hitler only wanted to bomb military targets, eh? That’s funny. I’m guessing Enrique Suarez isn’t a history major, or he might know that Hitler bombed civilian areas of Warsaw, London, as well as Soviet cities and who knows where else, not to mention his desire to wipe out entire races of people!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_bombing_during_World_War_II

Enrique Suarez’s article makes an iron-clad case FOR using the nukes. He says that Japan would have surrendered by November or December if we had not used them. That’s 3 or 4 more months of fire-bombing that would have occurred. Firebombing is not trivial:

https://www.tampabay.com/news/military/war/deadly-wwii-firebombings-of-japanese-cities-largely-ignored/2220606/

It is also true that the firebombing and nukes were in some ways Karma coming back to bite Japan in the azz, after they used similar attacks against civilians in the 1930s:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_bombing_during_World_War_II#Japanese_bombing

Japan surrendered because of the Russia invasion as noted, and because of the nukes:

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2016/08/06/commentary/japan-surrender-world-war-ii/

It is true, we did not HAVE to use nukes, but it did hasten the end of the war. Not only were we firebombing Japanese cities, we were starving them. The nukes were the humanitarian thing to do. The nukes also gave the rest of the world a warning: phuk with the USA at your peril. That warning has produced nuclear peace to this day. It was the correct decision.

Time to hit the history books Enrique Suarez.

rosalynn

I guess we don’t truly understand some things. For e.g. Japan is the US close ally while at the same time, Japan haven’t thanked the USA for the 2 atomic bombs nor asked for compensation. Have you ever worked with Japs? I find them easy to work with but at the same time, inscrutable & cold.

Ultan McG

Japanese is the term we normally use.