What REALLY happened with the collision of the USS Connecticut in the South China Sea

Important note: Image above is NOT of the USS Connecticut. It is of the USS San Francisco that rammed into an undersea mountain in 2005.

Let’s get right to the point.

The official American story is that the USS Connecticut rammed into an unmarked undersea mountain.

Since the Navy revealed this week that the fast-attack submarine Connecticut struck an undersea mountain in early October while operating in the South China Sea, one question springs to mind: how could this happen?

How could a $3 billion Seawolf-class boat, considered one of the Navy’s most formidable and advanced, crash into an undersea landmass?

-NavyTimes

Which is pretty strange as the locations of all undersea mountains has been well mapped for decades. You can see them on Google Earth for goodness sakes!

Bathymetric map of the South China sea.

It’s a very questionable conclusion.

And you know, what makes it even more questionable is that the United States navy has been flying their radiation detection aircraft all over where the USS Connecticut was running operations. Which is abnormal.

Radiation detection aircraft flight path…

Searching for something.

But then if you couple the United States silence to the Chinese inquiries as to whether or not nuclear payloads, equipment, and fissionable materials entered Chinese waters.

There are absolutely zero answers from the United States government to very serious questions asked by China.

The official Chinese story is something else. Here we will tell the Chinese side of the story.

Believe it or not. It’s up to you.

Here’s another post that you simply will not find anywhere else on the Internet. And, you know, I tire of my own sluggishness in trying to understand the great failure of the American “free media”.

Even I realize that there is no such thing as actual “news” in the West, but really guys it’s not too FUCKING DIFFICULT.

  • Beware of any “news” that you WANT to believe.
  • Look for what IS NOT being reported in the mainstream or conservative media.
  • Take particular note when the official narrative is absurd.
  • Be especially cautious of “seeded“ narratives that you get in emails, or in alternative websites.

That being said, let’s dive in…

The Seawolf class overview

Seawolf

From my email 17NOV21

I had a little message from one of my friends regarding the Connecticut incident. FYI, it seems the following message was approved by Beijing so I will just tack it on here.
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It has been translated from Chinese, with some clarifications to the machine translations by MM.

The Chinese military authorizes the disclosure of the truth about the accident of the Seawolf class nuclear submarine on the USS Connecticut.

16 November 2021

How the Chinese People’s Liberation Army hunted and sunk the (state of the art) USS Connecticut Seawolf-class attack nuclear submarine in the South China Sea.

 -October 2-
The British aircraft carrier Queen Elizabeth, the American aircraft carrier Nimitz, the American aircraft carrier Roosevelt, and the Japanese aircraft carrier Izumo entered Chinese waters. It dis so with 17 other warships. They hailed from the United States, Britain, Japan, the Netherlands, Canada and Australia. This 4 aircraft carrier armada represented the Western power of six nations.
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The South China Sea armada begins to conduct large-scale military exercises against China. This was done off the Chinese coast and within Chinese territorial waters.
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Trying to push China into a war.
 -October 2 to 4-
The People’s Liberation Army dispatched a large number of military aircraft to the South China Sea to conduct simulated attack exercises against these uninvited warships.
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The armada came from six countries. they were the United States, Britain, Japan, Holland, Canada and Australia. These nations all participated in conducting simulated invasions, attacks, and destruction of China, the Chinese nation, and Chinese sea lanes.
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Chinese J-20 aircraft.
 -October 2-
China’s Guanlan Marine Science Guard observed the approximate position and depth of the USS Connnecticut Seawolf class nuclear submarine when it entered the South China Sea.
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It followed it as it approached the South China Sea, and conducted operations South of Taiwan. It then observed it creep up the coast and operated near the Chinese shoreline and conduct surreptitious and illegal operations (inside of Chinese territorial waters as defined by the UN) of an unknown nature.
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The Guanlan satellite sent the data to the Super Measurement Center in Jinan to estimate the position of the Connecticut.
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Guanlan satellite.
 -China’s special detection device captured the ultra-low frequency sonar from the bow of the Connecticut spherical boat and transmitted the data to the Sonar Analysis Center in Shanghai to accurately locate the position and depth of the Connecticut. It was operating at 1500  meters [?] making and conducting obvious operations and drills inside of the Chinese coastline.
 -The Type 927 underwater acoustic detection ship stationed on Yongshou Island and the anti-submarine helicopter stationed on Yongxing Island are dispatched for detection.
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Type 927 underwater acoustic detection ship.
 -The Yun-8 military plane took off from the Hainan Air Force Base and carried out a “sonic bomb” on the Connecticut.
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This technology (a “sonic bomb”) causes the submarine’s personnel to be extremely uncomfortable due to the sonic shock. It does not injure or kill anyone. It simply makes all their pain receptors ignite on their bodies.
I am told it feels like being burned alive while frenzied hordes of cocaine-addicted rats gnaw at your eyes, gonads and fingers. And insects borrow deep inside your skin, biting, chewing and clawing all over your body. -MM
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This terror and discomfort forced the submarine to try to escape from the targeting cone of effect.
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Yun-8 military plane.
 -While it was trying to exit the cone of effect, the AI controlled robotic Chinese HSU001 unmanned submarine slipped silently to the nuclear submarine Connecticut. Where it attached itself to the bow of the ship.
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This was an intentional placement. This locations was as far away as possible from the nuclear power plant for a close local directed-explosion attack.
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It was then ignited,  and ended up causing serious damage to the bow of the boat and a complete loss of sonar sensing ability.
Translation confusion. I do not know if it placed weapons charges, or if the entire robot detonated itself. -MM
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The navigation capabilities and the nuclear power plants were not affected, preventing nuclear leaks from polluting the fishing waters off the Chinese coast.
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Chinese HSU001 unmanned submarine.
 -The Connecticut nuclear submarine, which lost its underwater submarine capability, was forced to float up and surrender. The Chinese military forced the submarine to float up and surrender.
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As the submarine broke the surface, it was met with Chinese PLA Naval vessels who took no overt action.
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Due to the close surveillance of the navy and air force of the Chinese People’s Liberation Army, the military aircraft and ships from the six countries of the United States, Japan, Britain, Australia, Holland, and Canada dared not come to rescue the submarine during the South China Sea exercise.
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If the Allied American force were to engage, world war III would become a reality.
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The submarine was “escorted” by the Chinese Navy and Air Force while in the South China Sea and the submarine was directed to follow the ships to docking facilities on the Chinese mainland.
Translation misunderstanding. It is unknown if the damaged submarine was actually escorted by the Naval Vessels, or if it then immediately submerged when given the opportunity. -MM
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Where it then again submerged. Further contact with the submarine was then lost.
 -October 7th-
The United States announced the Connecticut accident by the United States.
 -October 7-
The Chinese Foreign Ministry frantically questioned the ins and outs of the USS Connecticut incident to the Biden administration, but did not obtain any answers or explanations.
 -October 22-
The Chinese monitoring system detected a US nuclear submarine entering the South China Sea again near Huangyan Island.
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Damaged submarine surfaces.

A final update by the source

The PLAN would be messing around with USN at this point. 

1500 meter depth misinfo probably planted deliberately to taunt them because if the Drone sub did find the Connecticut, they definitely knew the actual depth it was running.

From the questions subsequently posed by the Chinese, it does seem they knew there was no nuclear leak.

China is playing around but It's like a cat with a mouse it caught.

The whole thing has Donald Cook vibes. Morale can't be good atm.

Added youtu.be link. You might like. https://youtu.be/VeJLwUfLcEU.

A comment on the destruction

The picture used above is a Los Angles class submarine.  It is the Nuclear Submarine USS San Francisco which struck an undersea mountain in 2005. It is NOT a seawolf class. So do not read too much into the imagery that I used to open this article with. It’s for illustration purposes only.

These pictures are all over the internet and I snagged one for use here.

Unfortunately the damage to the seawolf is not well photographed anywhere that I could find. Obviously the damage is a secure matter and the USN will not disseminate any pictures of it. Which is exactly what you would do to prevent an enemy from ascertaining knowledge on how effective their weapons systems were against you.

You do not do that with undersea mountain collisions. As the hundreds of USN released photos attest to. In previous mountain collisions, the USN was quick in the dissemination of information.

  • All photos depicting “combat damage” are classified as secret.
  • All photos depicting “accidental damage” are classified as “confidential” and released as the USN permits.

By all indications the damage to the seawolf is much more substantive than what everyone is led to believe. It is far more extensive than the collision damage indicated in the article featured image photo above.

Bow of a seawolf…

Bow of a seawolf class submarine.

A Los Angeles submarine bow…

The bow of a Los Angeles submarine bow.

This is the only photo that I have been able to obtain on the actual submarine in drydock and the damage involved. This is from THE DRIVE.

You can clearly see that the entire bow of the submarine is GONE. This fact alone shows that the damage is far more substantive than what is illustrated in the collision photo used as the header above.

Additionally, please note the orange ventilation tube, and the three access points where the tubes pump air into the front bow of the ship..

It appears that the entire front of the submarine forward of the conning tower is seeping water. And thus, needs to be pressurized to keep the water out.

This implies hull breaches at numerous points in the front one third of the submarine. This is NOT damage indicative of a forward collision. It is indicative of an explosion.

Seawolf sub in drydock.

From the photos it appears that the entire bow sonar array is GONE.

This is not a crushed impact. The array does not disintegrate upon collision. Some event completely eviscerated the entire front of the bow. Then punctured the hull in numerous points up to the conning tower.

Air is being pumped into the entire weapon storage and handling area aft of the forward navigation section.

Conclusions

Interesting version of events.
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This certainly makes far more sense that “accidentally” hit an “unmarked mountain”. But whether or not it is actually true is unknown and will stay that way forever.
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So, I do not know how true it is. We must always be aware of propaganda consisting of what we want to believe. The aspects of this particular narrative that makes sense is that it is in alignment with current Chinese technology and military doctrine.
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What I DO KNOW, is that right after the damage to the submarine was ascertained, and the crew debriefed, a close family friend of ours who is “connected” with the USN at a high level chatted with my brother. (A man who had gone “X-ray” from me for the last year or so) And contacted me telling me to leave China immediately that there would be a massive dangerous war and he couldn’t help me. I wrote about this elsewhere.
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This event train, along with the [1] quick rearming and [2] secret payload installation on numerous submarines at that time, fits well with this Chinese narrative. And not with the “crashed into a mountain” narrative.
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That all being said, it is obvious that the Chinese do not want radioactive waters near the Chinese coast, so they only damaged the sub, not sunk it completely. For after all it is a nuclear sub carrying nuclear torpedoes. But we cannot expect this behavior and “safety rules” to continue with the pushing by the United States towards war. This is an aspect of war that I hadn’t thought about previously, but makes complete sense. This is why New Zealand absolutely refuses any nuclear vessels in and near it’s waters.

Yet nothing else about this incident is available anywhere. Very curious. Very, very curious. I presume there is video footage of the sub surfacing and it’s surrender. The PLA Navy seem to be toying around with the US navy like a cat would with a mouse. Seeing this video footage would greatly substantiate this narrative, but as in all things Chinese PLA, access and dissemination are tightly controlled.

It’s difficult for me to accept the American narrative that the submarine not only collided with an uncharted mountain, but that the Chinese just stood by and did nothing while a four aircraft carrier armada conducted missile drills simulating an attack on China. There are NO uncharted undersea mountains in the South China Sea. Hasn’t anyone watched the 1980’s Tom Clancy movie “Red October”? The entire ocean has been mapped.

It is also difficult for me to believe that the Chinese with all their advances and lead in military technology are thwarted by the American Navy. It just doesn’t stand up to the “sniff test”. At least not to us “technology wonks“. The Chinese have surpassed the United States military in a number of very new and novel technologies and the USA will take decades trying to counter them.

Overall, the Chinese seemed to intentionally want to disable the submarine, force it to surface, and then acquire it in a fully functional state. Whether this is for Geo-political purposes, or to reverse engineer it is unknown. My guess is the later, as they really don’t give a rat’s ass what anyone else thinks. When your reputation is shit, who cares if someone says something bad about you.

True or not, you can rest assured that this release of this information would have been war gamed and factored into the AI computations that will figure predominantly in the events of the future. The Chinese do not play around. They are a very serious nation, run on merit, and lead with capable leaders.
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If the provocations continue, we can expect China to sink the submarines completely. The impression that I have is that they are “being gentle” at this moment in time. After all, they could have sunk the 3 billion 6 billion dollar nuclear submarine and killed the entire crew of 140 seamen. It is a top of the line, best of the best, American “prize” of the fleet. But they did not.
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This particular Seawolf type of submarine is an offensive weapon that is designed to sneak into enemy waters, and destroy ships, shipping, and facilities. The fact that it was tracked inside Chinese territorial waters clearly indicated it’s intentions. Aside from a violation of the national sovereignty of China, it was a violation of the UN code of behaviors in the South China Sea. Sinking the ship off the Coast of China would prove to the world that the USA is a dangerous aggressor, but that would not matter, as World War III would have been ignited.
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All in all, it took a remarkable amount of restraint not to completely sink the submarine and kill all the crew. The Chinese played this incident adroitly. They [1] demonstrated their abilities and capabilities for the world to see, and [2] showed that they have restraint. They [3] indicated that they desire peace and not war.
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It is unfortunate that the United States cannot take these subtle hints at face value. The American government leadership tend to over-estimate their abilities, and severely under-estimate the abilities of their foes.
This was a warning. There will NOT be a second one.
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Let’s see what happens next.
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Given the idiots that run the United States today, I fully expect the United States government to “double down” and send their ships and submarines into harms way knowing full well that they risk the lives of all involved. I cannot see that it would matter inside the Washington DC beltway.
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Interesting read never the less.

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JustAnotherAsian

Trump took China’s conciliatory gesture as weakness and thus gave him the confidence to launch his trade war.

Americans in general has never truly tried to understand others culture. That said, those professional civil servants in the States Department that understood Chinese culture were probably over ruled by the politicians who thought they knew better anyway.

Yes, the PLAN was being gentle & sent a message. Whether the US military and administration could listen is another matter. They seem to only be able to understand in your face messages rather than gentle hints.

The Russians have a term for this kind of people … nekulturny (некультурный).

Memory Loss

Having thought about it, at the most the “info” seems to be speculation. Not specific enough to be considered an “official” leak by Station B. But it is quite interesting as a thought experiment and a warning of sorts to the USN. Stuff like this will affect overall morale in the submarine boys. And if it gets Biden and gang to back off a bit, then it’s a good thing.

rosalynn

Thanks MM. I think war is inevitable. You see the two historical opium suppliers working together. They will never tolerate a strong powerful China. Just a matter of time, and how they will do it. Sneak attack, like a thief in the night. Jesus.

mtness

Not unplausible. Seems like a totally legit use case for these HSU0001.

But may I amend, the damaged sub in the Intro Picture does NOT show the USS C –
the seawolf class has no fins/canards(?) on the tower – which also has a slightly different shape.

Oh, man – the books of Tom Clancy. Easy reading at the time, at least for me!
Will look into the new ones now, while we are beginning to lock down again for the winter…

Your mention of Red October made an association to “Kill Decision” by Daniel Suarez,
this is just like TC’s books, but with drones – and a very interesting happening – located in ther south china sea, too.

Best regards, take care and have a nice end of the week,
MT

Suzanna

@Memory Loss
agreed
*bullies on the playground
*dangerous intrusions
*war mongers should be banned

rosalynn

hi, did you open that link i sent to you earlier? It said the USS C was completed in 1998 at the price of USD6 billion. My gawd. Not 3 billion, it’s 6 billion. Btw, don’t you feel it strange in your bones? I mean, USA sub was attacked and it sailed back to Guam for repairs. It’s got its justification to start a war but maybe fucking joebiden still looking for his balls. MM, can you analyse this? Maybe they are now consulting trump.

Olidad Aznaila

hahaha. That is 3rd world war? Sarajevo is a small piece of firearm and it wrecked the world. How much more a submarine? Do they understand this?

Grant Spork

The South China Sea is international waters. The Connecticut Nuclear sub may have hit another Chinese or Russian sub. They are often tasked with shadowing other subs for weeks. Claiming international waters is like Australia claiming the entire Coral Sea, or the US half the Pacific because they are in Hawaii. Not plausible! The international court ruled that the red dashed line has no bearing in international maritime law, and militarizing islands in international waters is illegal!

Bo Chen

I might buy Cold Waters game on GOG.com with no DRM

Anyone wants a free copy email me bo@bochen.org

Sumwan

Any info about USS Jimmy Carter? I read somewhere that USS Jimmy Carter and connecticut often work in pairs. Not sure how true is it.