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Q: is the STS ideology a Satanic World Line?
Mark Passio has an interesting take on this actually. At it's core, Service to Self is the first concept of Satanism. And as a former Satanist himself, he is probably qualified to tell you that it's not about a red dude with horns and a tail. It's more about slavery for most of mankind. So a world line where there are some elite and the majority slaves is Satanism without the religious trappings.
What are your thoughts, guys?
Being an occultist, I am weary when it comes to the subject of Satanism. Whilst I do not identify as a Satanist myself, I have friends in the occult community that are associated with some who do. I have found from in depth discussion with them on the subject that Satanism is more of a set of ideals specifically aimed at shying away from the indoctrination practices of mainstream churches, most specifically Christianity. They use the concept of Satan as like saying a big "fuck you" to the church, but they don't actually believe in it the same way as being an evil entity as the Christians do - ie they don't believe int he stereotypical version of it as pushed through common media such as Hollywood. Most of these people truly believe in improbing themselves and helping their communities as a whole. I have actually seen photos of Satanist's walking alongside Muslim women who were being harassed to offer them protection. I have seen reports of Satanists standing up to notorious bikie crowds who believe they have authroity over others.
Is it selfish? Well yes, parts of it certainly seem that way, but no more than any other religion that seeks salvation through the propegation of its churches ideals. When you go deeper into it, Satanism seems more aligned with the idea of worshipping oneself as a god, instead of an external deity others would call the god - is this not essentially what Airl was saying we have been tricked into giving up? It doesn't help that there are many branches of Satanism to choose from each with their different flavours of belief. I believe it is actually stated in the Satanic bible that they are against pedophilia and anyone found engaging in it will be expelled from their churches. When you come across articles suggesting the elite are secret Satanists that commit attrocities in the name of that particular entity, one must remember that it is talking about the latter stereotypical image the churches use to paint Satan, rather than the ideals that seem to be held in belief within the Satanic Church and majority of its members. I can tell you the statue of Baphomet they like to put up everywhere has nothing to do with evil; it is symbolic of the "As above, so below" concept of the micro and macrocosm as referenced by its hands, because Satanists are into the occult (again this has been twisted by the elite so that the two automatically equate to evil in the eyes of most). Of course, you are going to get bad apples in every religion and Satanism is obviously no exception. The real question that should be asked is if these bad apples were acting from a the stereotypical idea of Satanism put in place by the churches and backed by Hollywood, or from the idea of Satan taken from majority of the Satanic community. I think you will find it is usually the former, and their numbers will be quite considerably smaller than those of the latter. They see some hollywood propeganda bullshit about sacrificing children to Belial so they go ahead with it.
Hi,
Sorry, if I am out of order here, I just kind of stumbled on this question. I looked into this organisation during their previous publicity stunt (erecting a statue of Baphomet). Unless they have taken a drastic turn from the 'Legal Prankster' ideology, they are really not that religious. quite the contrary, actually.
So:
- How I've seen STS's action it has primarily been directed to fight against the USA becoming an (even more) theocratic country than it is at the moment.
- Specifically, their actions have been against Christian monuments being erected in/near State buildings.
- Currently, their focus is fighting against Texas' abortion ban
- "Satanism" is mostly an asymmetric infowar tactic against Christian/Evangelical propaganda. The philosophical connotations are apparently not the main motivation behind the name of this organisation.
- Their wide use of androgynous Baphomet as core illustration places them more into Occultism (if anything), as Satan is primarily a Christian construct as opposed to Baphomet, which has its etymology tied to Templars, Kabbala, Zohar, Gnostics, Freemasons, alchemists and bunch of others...
@ JC Soulwood no your not out of order at all man. You summed up what I was trying to convey in a very precise and concise manner perfectly
I think it is important to try not get to caught up in any one system of beliefs being worse than any others. It is the typical divide and conquer technique the elite use on us all. Religious status should never be used to determine ones value and contribution to society as a whole.
@DM -Man - words of fucking wisdom right in this thread. Yours was - hands down - the single best explanation I have heard regarding STS. Seriously solid words.
I have been trying to explain satanism to someone who has no concept of what “satan” is. We in the west love our cubbyholes, right? It’s all image, am I right? We have this cloven hooved thing with horns accepting the sacrifice of babies and puppies and camels. When that image drives you to get up and go to work - good on ya, man. There is a LOT worse out here than Satan or anything close. This skin suit we are wearing has just not seen it yet. We haven’t and can’t experience what it feels like. However we ARE given the JUDGEMENT to know what’s right and wrong at any given moment. I know satanists as well - that are such upstanding and helpful members of their community that you would THINK they would be saints. I am totally cool with that.
@ PL good to hear from you again dude. And yeah it's all a load of bullshit, just lik the whole angels/demons thing. They are all the same shit with their various agendas....only we were taught that certain ones were good and certain ones were bad. We need to stop looking at the dividing line and start looking past into "what are these things - these apparent gods, these angels demons etc - collectively". lol just realised i said improbing themselves...obviously a typo there that really didn't do that post any favours
It’s great to be back! Covid hit like demon. It HAS to be American made. Evil Fauci and his little evil elves spreading their hate. It’s funny-I talk like this openly in the USA. That America made this bug and used China to do it - and everyone agrees. No dissent. This is how average Americans are seeing themselves. Most for the first time. It’s sad.
I think this whole satan thing is part of that lie/hypnosis cycle. If I can delve deep enough into your brain I can find what you fear most and profit off of it. Sort of sounds like Western media, huh? Well it’s REAL easy to do to kids. And the Judeo/Christian establishment - and I’ll just call it that as not to offend Christians or Jews, but that whole establishment just keeps the cycle going.
There is a line from “The Truman Show” that is so true to life. “We accept the reality that we are presented”
If I present demons killing babies and that nonsense - then yeah, to a human that can be scary. But if you get someone or something that has no concept of that kind of evil - because that kind of evil doesn’t exist where they are from - then the baby killing demon has no more power than an old slipper.
And if people think satan is as powerless as an old slipper, they may not pay attention to the fear. And the powers that be can’t have that.
One has to "understand" that even Jesus Christ was "selfish."
He valued the souls of his flock over his own life. So he didn't "sacrifice" anything. He valued their future over his future. The TRUE sacrifice would have been him ignoring his people, and not ministering to them, even with the knowledge he had.
A sacrifice is to act against your values. To be selfish, is to act in accordance with your values.
The parent who loves his child, and dies to protect the child is being selfish, and has not performed a sacrifice. For the loving parent, the real sacrifice would be to let his child die. Then, he has violated his own values.
Every self is self-ish. Just like everything in nature is natural.
Certain the Mantids and Grays are also IS-BEs. Do they have a self? Do they have an agenda?
Of course! The fly has an agenda, and the ant, and the giraffe also. To give your physical life, if you are an immortal IS-BE, is to give nothing, to perhaps give an old suit or old pair of shoes.
I believe that the creation of Satan was the ultimate false flag. Just like the American CIA created and trained Osama bin Laden.
Someone has to be the "bad guy." It's not a popular job, and I know of no man or nation that cries out that they are bad and evil. Not even the North Koreans.
God created all of existence, even Satan. He KNEW, beforehand, what Satan would do. Its the Hegalian Dialect - problem - solution - resolution. Sin - man estranged -man's return.
We see repeatedly references by the Grays that "truth is relative." I would like to hear what whether the Grays or Mantids believe in an absolute moral standard, which holds in all times and at all places.
The either STS or STO can be easily misunderstood and hence be another false dichotomy. A parent in a plane has to put her oxygen mask on before putting it on her child. The reason why is pretty obvious. If you don’t take good care of yourself you can’t take good care of others.
An acquaintance of mine was obsessively helping others. For me it felt like an intrusion and it irritated me. She clearly was avoiding to address her own shitze. Her service to others was clearly a (dis)service to self ;-).