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To Australia - from America. A message.
Your perceptions are correct.
@pissedlizard it’s funny how non-gun people are focused on America’s semi autos (AR-15s, 9mms, etc)
The bolt actions are what you need to look out for. Lots of deer hunters are proficient out to 400 yards, including on moving targets - like a deer running at 40 miles per hour.
like my great grandma used to say back in the day when they’d poach deer to survive, “if you only shoot once, no one can tell where you are shooting from”
However violence is a losing bet here. We need peaceful non compliance, and we need to focus on building parallel, self sufficient societies.
we don’t need the oligarchs. Like, at all.
Well, the gun is nothing - that's where the survivalists and 2nd Amendment folk got it wrong.
If you cannot use your gun, having it serves no purpose. That's why the 2A is just an empty threat now in Murka, an anachronism. That mountain of guns is collecting dust.
The former USA is a full-on, evil, police state. Privacy and anonymity no longer exist, which make revolution impossible. Note well that Mao, Ho-Chi Mihn or Lenin did not begin their work under police state regimes.
The skills that cops and soldiers have are meaningless - because they act under the orders of The State. When they act without orders, they always fail. No cop or soldier in the USA is trained in how to evade modern forensics, the Surveillence Apparatus, and investigations.
Violence (and implied violence) works very, very well - against YOU.
This is in fact, the hidden reason why no revolution has occurred. Americans fear being jailed, tortured or kill by their government. This is also called "democide." They are lying about the conditions of things, as they will not admit they are afraid of their own police, military and government. They will not admit that the USA is a police state now, here, today.
Violence against some humans is legal and just. Violence against others is evil, monsterous and illegal.
In any prison, guards can and do use violence against the inmates. HOWEVER, inmates cannot ever use violence against the guards. I have heard of what COs do to such men.
To escape prison - you're right - violence "usually" doesn't work. I do recall one case in Afghanistan where the Taliban stormed a prison and everyone escaped. Or Kengir, in the former USSR, which eventually failed.
The vast majority of successful prison-breaks are escape by night affairs. The prisoners don't fight the guards, they evade them by craft. In the case of Prison Planet Earth, there is outside assistance.
We can consider most countries open-air prisons, with their citizens being held hostage by their government. An "honest" CO will readily admit - the prisoners could take over the prison any time they like - but rarely (never) are they so organized and of one mind.
I am not a gun guy, so I have no idea what a bolt action even is. I don’t know nothing about those things.
@xzianchow that’s largely true, except the stockpile of guns is preventing the kind of direct police brutality you are seeing in Australia. For now. It’s also preventing the classical door to door “smash and grab” police activities you see in communist regimes. But generally speaking, when governments are better armed than the people, you have government oppression.
a few months back the FBI raided someone for “child porn” (see MM’s story). Guy had his property wired up with cameras and killed the first two agents through the door. You better believe law enforcement everywhere took note.
And then there’s Chris Dorner - cop, ex military, who went postal and started hunting cops in California. Drove the cops nuts and even caused them to snap and shoot up a truck that looked like his, almost killing two women. The logistics of something like the Chris Dorner event happening on a larger scale in America are absolutely terrifying due to the size of the land mass and the unguarded critical infrastructure.
So guns have been very effective at keeping certain elements of classical tyranny at bay, and in a sense they really act as a deterrent. But to your point they’ve almost been counter productive in the sense that the system has needed to improvise and find ways of controlling the population indirectly, such as some well publicized events to strike fear into those who would resist. I’m thinking of the “insurrection” on Jan. 6th.
Other than that, you’re absolutely correct about the open air prison and the modern surveillance techniques. Last week, they caught some skinny antifa dork who shot a medical freedom protester. These stories fascinate me:
Here you have some dweeb dressed in black from head to toe, and they still manage to catch him within a day or two. Official story was he ran into an alley and disrobed. Yeah, I don’t buy it. I think there’s some pretty sophisticated surveillance that’s operational but unpublicized.
@pissedlizard a bolt action simply means you pull the trigger once, it shoots once. Then you have to manually operate the “action” of the gun to eject the shell casing and load another round. Bolt actions are more accurate than semi-automatics and generally fire higher caliber ammunition.
One last thing about gun ownership in America… for levity… gun owners tend to have this attitude that “I’ll just use muh gun if anyone fucks with me!” And so a lot of them tend to be fat. So there’s probably a strong correlation between obesity and gun ownership, which doesn’t bode well for the gun owners in any kind of conflict.
Hunters tend to be in shape, but only in states with mountains where you have to be physically fit to hunt
I’ll add one more thing: in America, many people own guns not because of the government, but because of demographics and crime.
Wow! You remembered Chris Dorner; few would remember him. (He was a LAPD cop who began to hunt down other LAPD cops, until he was killed by fire.)
Yes - when you see the police (in any country) magically solving a crime - just rolling up to the right person's house and catching the right person who just happens to be there.
It isn't magic. It is the Police Surveillence State. They tracked him electronicially, via his credit card, his car, his cell phone, or via CCTV.
I have law enforcement articles from 2009 that admit that the UK (an otherss) was already a police state. They were very concerned at the time, "about killing the golden goose." But they needn't have worried, few are honest.
What "TPTB" are greatly afraid of, is the survellience being turned against them. You can see this in articles from the US military about drones in the 'Stan or Iraq, and articles from Mexico on the cartels using drones also.