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What are the payouts for the participants and observers in a Simulation World?
Just a quick and dirty before this thought disappears.
Assuming we are "participants" in a Simulation.
The poor participants
1. We had no choice, we were inducted into a game.
2. We can play as two archetypes. STS or STO.
3. Both types have their pathways. And payouts.
4. Yada Yada Yoda.
The Observer(s)
1. They have a game to watch for entertainment.
2. They may or may not interfere in the game. So they can help the avatars discreetly or perhaps at rare moments even ware a particular avatar or two.
3. Maybe they are sorting out for the rare avatar who can do the ultimate level up. Ie become an Observer himself. In such a scenario, the participant becomes a minor God in effect.
4. The game is eternal in that the Observers play as long as they want. Some Observers may leave the game at some point, who know. But the game carries on nevertheless.
[edit: we as participants also affect the results of the observations. Because we have consciousness. Instead of we wondering if the universe is Sentient, maybe the Universe wonders whether we are sentient enough for it.]
What is the purpose of the Simulation and its rules
I think there may not be a purpose to the Simulation. Or alternatively even the fate of the Observers are tied to the Simulation. There is a Chinese concept that even the gods vanish when there are no worshippers.
Sorry if this is disjointed. These thoughts popped out of nowhere. And they won't let leave me alone endless I put them out lol.
If the Simulation argument is to be taken seriously, then we should approach it robustly. From all angles, and this includes the payout view.
Like a casino for instance. We can look at the individual games and the jackpot machines. The croupiers, the ordinary Joe's, the card counters. Even the hackers. (DM and PL would be the card counters I suppose).
[edit: DM and PL aren't thrown out of the casino, because there is nowhere else to go. They are inducted as dealers and croupiers instead.]
Then what about the management and staff. What do the management get for keeping the casino running. What do they have to do to get new customers and keep the old regular customers returning.
Where am I?
Sorry, I am a Mutable Sign so I only read things partially.
The STS and STOs simulations are vectored for sentience farming, from what I remember of Uriah’s video. I would assume it would be similar to farming in the physical. souls will be collected for feeding and growing designated soul type.
Quote from Alice on October 4, 2021, 5:55 pmSorry, I am a Mutable Sign so I only read things partially.
The STS and STOs simulations are vectored for sentience farming, from what I remember of Uriah’s video. I would assume it would be similar to farming in the physical. souls will be collected for feeding and growing designated soul type.
Well, you farm to eat right? 🍜 You don't farm to add a member to your family 🏡👨👩👦.
Sentience farming taken literally means our consciousness is farmed to feed other entities. Sort of like Jerry Marzinsky and his idea that negative entities feed on your emotions (among other things).
@Memory Loss You said...
Sorry if this is disjointed. These thoughts popped out of nowhere. And they won't let leave me alone endless I put them out lol.
Welcome to The Domain. That's how it works.
I can tell you something about both casinos, and "games."
I used to be a card counter. This is a perfectly legal technique, where you are actually allowed to use your mind to think and defeat the games the casinos presents, via mathematics.
Casinos love losers, and they hate mathematically aware winners. They don't mind winners who just get lucky, but if the streak runs too long, they will trespass them also. So the overall goal of the casino is to make money.
And "games" are all nice and fun, until there are stakes attached. It is entertaining to watch, if you are not involved. Kind of like watching a gladiator battle. Fun, if you aren't in the arena.
Street smarts says - "every body gets something out of every transaction."
It means, if someone is doing something voluntarily, they are probably getting something out of it. The Grays and Mantids are not charity organizations. They are getting something out of their actions - what that is, I don't know quite yet.
The very fact that memories and quanta are "farmed", which implies work and value, means that there is a sort of "coin" of the non-physical realm. The non-physical realm must run on something. What is it that they trade and value?
Quote from xzianchow on October 5, 2021, 6:17 amI can tell you something about both casinos, and "games."
I used to be a card counter. This is a perfectly legal technique, where you are actually allowed to use your mind to think and defeat the games the casinos presents, via mathematics.
Casinos love losers, and they hate mathematically aware winners. They don't mind winners who just get lucky, but if the streak runs too long, they will trespass them also. So the overall goal of the casino is to make money.
And "games" are all nice and fun, until there are stakes attached. It is entertaining to watch, if you are not involved. Kind of like watching a gladiator battle. Fun, if you aren't in the arena.
Street smarts says - "every body gets something out of every transaction."
It means, if someone is doing something voluntarily, they are probably getting something out of it. The Grays and Mantids are not charity organizations. They are getting something out of their actions - what that is, I don't know quite yet.
The very fact that memories and quanta are "farmed", which implies work and value, means that there is a sort of "coin" of the non-physical realm. The non-physical realm must run on something. What is it that they trade and value?
@xzianchow, let me elaborate my thoughts in a while. Another bunch of thoughts popped up and I couldn't sleep I think the Mantids are like agents. Not Agent Smith type, but sports agents like. And if you follow Swedenborg, each human has four entities. Two good and two bad. I am on the fence with this but I do think that shows the demand for our "products".
Everything is transactional. Even the Christian God, "Worship me and in return I will give you X, Y, Z. Terms and conditions shall apply."
I will expand on this because a part of those thoughts touch on Mades, Escapes the Lion. And it creeps me out because it seems to be partially a test, if I am correct. So I have to put something out on that as well. I think I know who MM is or was, and if true it boggles my mind. Clue MM is not a Warden.
@memoryloss
You made perfect sense and we’re not disjointed at all - to me.
I LOVE how you think! Very interesting concepts you laid out!
then I kept reading....
VERY interesting. Do you know how I see this forum? Long ago in the 90s in America dirt-bikers all across the country gathered in Dumont Dunes Nevada. It turned into a giant free-for all festival of all kinds of everyone. The bikers biked the dunes, the Shamans did made music and the people danced and it was fucking WILD!
Then promoters got wind of if and moved the bazaar to Black Rock Desert. It was actually cool as FUCK for about 10 years. Then Silicon Valley descended and Hollywood followed.
Anyway I liken this place to that - early on. When it was just a bunch of “us” - whoever we were - that planted a tent down and offered massages for a tarot reading - or some crazy shit like that. All of us being cool to eachother.
The festival is called Burning Man in the USA BTW. It’s pretty big here now.
You also said “And it creeps me out because it seems to be partially a test, if I am correct”
Welcome! Trust me. I have written that very sentence on this forum about 100 times, and the regulars can vouch for that. So you are not alone in those feelings, okay? It’s all good. We are all here together.
@memory loss "[edit: DM and PL aren't thrown out of the casino, because there is nowhere else to go. They are inducted as dealers and croupiers instead.]"
Oh believe me there is somewhere else to go. This is what I have been trying to convey with my articles. Consider it like moving to a different house when you are a very small child. You have next to no memory of the place, then when you go back there in your elderly years all these memories of this place come flooding back to you and your like "hey wtf I remember this place and all these people I haven't seen for thousands of years." This wasn't astral projection or a lucid dream - it was a totally new thing - I was on the outside of the "prison" and looking in.
This is why I am weary of the Domain; in this "place" where I met the EG there was no such thing as Authority, at least not in the way they mention it. If the Domain truly are benevolent and here to help us it must be a mistranslation - I think this is the most fitting explanation on why they would give us so much intelligence on the prison in the first place.
If the EG were messing with me then they were somehow able to make me remember over 40 000 years worth of memories including the celestial family that was present there. I just don't think these were artificial memories; man I wish I could take you to that experience because it was so "alien" to anything you would experience on earth that I cannot adequately explain it. There just are no words for it. But I am telling you, I am pretty damn sure I got out of jail
Once you remember that "place" outside of the prison you never want to come back "here". The thought of doing is a major bummer of the highest degree.
Quote from daegonmagus on October 5, 2021, 11:15 am@memory loss "[edit: DM and PL aren't thrown out of the casino, because there is nowhere else to go. They are inducted as dealers and croupiers instead.]"
Oh believe me there is somewhere else to go. This is what I have been trying to convey with my articles. Consider it like moving to a different house when you are a very small child. You have next to no memory of the place, then when you go back there in your elderly years all these memories of this place come flooding back to you and your like "hey wtf I remember this place and all these people I haven't seen for thousands of years." This wasn't astral projection or a lucid dream - it was a totally new thing - I was on the outside of the "prison" and looking in.
This is why I am weary of the Domain; in this "place" where I met the EG there was no such thing as Authority, at least not in the way they mention it. If the Domain truly are benevolent and here to help us it must be a mistranslation - I think this is the most fitting explanation on why they would give us so much intelligence on the prison in the first place.
If the EG were messing with me then they were somehow able to make me remember over 40 000 years worth of memories including the celestial family that was present there. I just don't think these were artificial memories; man I wish I could take you to that experience because it was so "alien" to anything you would experience on earth that I cannot adequately explain it. There just are no words for it. But I am telling you, I am pretty damn sure I got out of jail
Once you remember that "place" outside of the prison you never want to come back "here". The thought of doing is a major bummer of the highest degree.
Sorry I really should have made clear. Which I didn't.
The induction as employees of the casino would be a totally Old Empire tactic. And they can do that IF you think there is nowhere else to go.
In my gut the Domain has a lot more information and assistance to offer to the (selected?) inmates. In a mock test, you have clues about what the topics may be. In a live exercise, things may be different. On a physical plane, the Domain may own this area. On other planes, things may again be different.
If we have workable intelligence on the Prison then, we can plan accordingly. I think the casino concept has many implications. As @zxianchow said, card counting is perfectly legal and is good if you want to stay inside the game. However. a floor plan showing the entrance and back exits (for staff) would be nicer. Now, an exceptionally talented individual might be able to find that floor plan. Just musing.