Quote from daegonmagus on October 5, 2021, 3:07 pm

@Capt  Melonhead
"What happens when someone ends up losing faith in the official dogma and starts operating from a completely different viewpoint?"

They spawn an entire school of thought known as Hermetic Philosophy

Quote from Capt Melonhead on October 5, 2021, 3:25 pm

True, but I was thinking more in terms of practical implications

Why do the Controllers work to keep everyone on the same reality, and what happens when one attempts to leave said reality ?

Quote from Memory Loss on October 5, 2021, 3:51 pm

A few thoughts.

1. Yes assume it is a hologram, a construct.

2. It is a Prison Planet but it is also a Sentience farm.

3. Swedenborg says we have 4 angels to each human.

I make the following assumptions then:

A. To have 4 angels per person, what we produce is extremely valuable. Probably unique in the Universe.

B. These angels or mantids are like (sports?) agents. They sell our "products". >> so far the agents are taking 100% of our earnings. It's like prisoners are paid slave wages.

C. I believe that agent contracts are void because they were entered into without our knowledge or consent. Or worse they are freeloading with no contract.

D. We can renegotiate a new contract. Meaning the Mantids should be working to change this timeline with us.

E. We actually have a secret weapon. "Now I am become Shiva, Destroyer of Worlds." and Shiva is a constructive destroyer. Not what is portrayed in MSM. The nuclear bomb Shiva is probably another trap to lock us into our programming.

 

Quote from Capt Melonhead on October 5, 2021, 4:46 pm

I was just writing a reply to your most recent post.

And yes, I was thinking along the same lines.
We seem to have tricked ourselves into slavery.

Judging by what Daegon Magus says, impersonating other entities is easy to do in the non-physical (I was actually told that in a dream) - so I can see how parasites might disguise themselves as guardian angels

Incidentally, I believe this would be of interest

http://roage.com/res/html/CheatSheetMarkV.html

It has a section explicitly talking about Natural Law contracts.

So ... what do ?
We renege our contracts and demand better ones ? This is what seems logical.
So how does one go about it ?

Quote from daegonmagus on October 5, 2021, 7:12 pm

@capt-melonhead yes you can reneg your contract. it all starts with your birth certificate and the {false/fictional} identity on it that most people assume is "them" their entire life. It isn't. The birth certificate is your contract of employment into the shitshow that is earth. It is the character you "agree" to play on the stage of life. You also need to realise that responsibility for that birth certificate ultimately lies with your parents, as they were the ones that signed you into it when you were under their care, or with whoever signed it if you are an orphan. So it is likely they will need to be made aware of their fuckup and given a chance to rectify it (see the dilemma here; who in their right mind wants to have "that" conversation with their parent - I did it because at that point I honestly didn't give a shit if my father thought I was crazy, but I can see how this would present a problem with others. In the absence of parents I would suggest sending it to your state government where you certificate is kept on record.
The one I wrote to my father is below if you need some inspiration. This is what got me thrown in the Wet Room by the hands of the ET Gestapo that very night, so there must be something in it:

04/10/2017
Dad, acknowledged Father of {First Name}, Master of himself.
{Address of Parent}.

It has recently come to my attention that you may have unwittingly entered me into  a fraudulent contract with the corporation known as the “Government of {State}” upon the application and signing of a document known by that corporation and yourself as a “Birth Certificate” shortly after I, a living, breathing person of flesh and blood, a sovereign entity, known as the son and offspring of yourself, was born into a physical life, whereby I would become bound by the terms and conditions as set forth by the “Government of {State}” and any of it’s subsidiaries, chiefly the “Registrar of Birth Deaths and Marriages” outlined in the “Birth Certificate ” and in any adjoining documents attached to it. I believe that by signing this contract of employment, you have granted the “Government of {State}” the right to create a fictional "account” of my physical, sovereign self, known as a “name”, “legal name” or “person” by the “Government of {State}” bearing the title of “Mr/Mrs {Full Name with capitals for start letters and lower case letters for the rest}”, or “{MR/MRS FULL NAME ALL IN CAPS}”, that a trust was established on this “account” of which I was to become the prime beneficiary, and that a “trustee” was appointed to manage this “account” on my behalf by the “Government of {state}”. I believe that upon entering me into this contract of employment with the “Government of {State}” that any freedoms my physical, sovereign self would have enjoyed under “Natural Law” – that is, those laws, pertaining to the use of my living, physical soul, or other such non perceivable entity that grants my physical, living  body of flesh its biological function, known as “God” amongst the Christians, or  "Ain Soph Aur” amongst members of the same belief system as myself – would have been revoked as they are in direct conflict with the policies of the “Government of {State}”, which it outlines under definitions such as “Common Law”, “Statute Law”, “Admiralty Law” and any other “Law” as set out in its contractual obligations, known as the “{Country of Birth} Constitution”. It has also come to my attention that upon signing the “Birth Certificate” you were unwittingly handing over your status as my paternal guardian to the “Government of {State}”, bastardising my claim to the trust held by the “trustee” of the “account” of which I am the beneficiary, and that in turning eighteen years of age this “trustee”, acting on behalf of the “Government of {State}”, and not in my best interests, may have declared me “lost at sea” under its policy of “Admiralty Law”, forfeiting any amounts held within the “trust account” of which I otherwise would have been entitled to use for corporate expenditures , unto themselves. It is my understanding that this “trust” is now likely being traded on the stock exchange, both national and international without my consent.
Let it be known that I deem this contract to be null and void, as you did not have my voluntary agreement to it being made when you entered into it on my behalf, nor was I in any capacity of mind to comprehend what such a contract would impose upon myself and my natural freedoms, that the fictional representation of my living, breathing, physical, sovereign self known as a “legal name” or “person” is nothing more than an imaginary concept, as is the “family name” given to me by that contract known as the “Birth certificate” as “{Last name with Capital for first letter}”,  devised by those involved in what I, and the “Natural Law” of my soul, consider to be fraudulent and criminal behaviour. Let it also be known that, due to the negligence of yourself as my paternal guardian, and the fact that my corporate “trust” has been stolen to aid in the trafficking of my physical, sovereign self, by organisations involved with the criminal cartel known as the Rothschilds – owners of the corporation called the American “Federal Reserve Bank” – I have corporate expenditures which the “Government of {State}” proclaims as “debts” or “liabilities”, both “public” and “private”, that have not yet been reimbursed through the “trust account”. As my physical, body of flesh is in fact living, I ask that you declare your ignorance in this matter, agreeing that you had no intention of entering me into any contractual obligations, with any organisation, whether criminal or not, whatsoever, and that you confirm you have in fact seen my physical, living, breathing body of flesh on numerous occasions after it had existed on this earth for eighteen years, and that I am neither lost at sea nor dead, as may have been so callously claimed by my appointed “trustee”. I also ask that you place a value of one trillion ounces of physical gold upon my soul, that being the amount by which you would pay the non-perceivable entity responsible for the creation of my soul, whatever you wish to call it, to recreate my physical, breathing body of flesh in its entirety should it ever meet an untimely, and unplanned end, assuming such an act was possible, and that the only being of comprehension worthy enough to determine the way that my soul should act is myself, the Master and King of my temple, that being the one that houses my cognitive thoughts, henceforth to be known by you as {whatever single name you wish} or {nickname}. Being a Master and King of my own physical, breathing body of flesh, you agree that I am subservient to no other, in regards to how it should function, with exception to the unperceivable entity, Ain Soph Aur, that created my soul and instilled it within that aforementioned body, and that no priest or ruler, no matter how holy, has any right to claim the contrary. If, however, you were aware of the conditions of the contract you were entering me into, I ask that you take full responsibility for the “debts” and “liabilities”, both “public” and “private”, and compensate me for any damages and losses my soul and my physical, breathing body may have incurred as a result of being an employee with the “Government of {State}”, and that all monies held within my trust account be returned to me and deposited into an account of my choosing. In the event that you do not respond to this letter within 21 days of it being issued, I will assume ignorance on your part, in which case all “debts”, “liabilities”, “damages”, “losses” and other “incurrences” will become the responsibility of the “Government of {State}”, and the contract, the “Birth Certificate” will be rendered null and void.

Sincerely.

{Name}, Master of himself, both in body and spirit/soul

Quote from Memory Loss on October 5, 2021, 7:26 pm

Quote from Capt Melonhead on October 5, 2021, 4:46 pm

I was just writing a reply to your most recent post.

And yes, I was thinking along the same lines.
We seem to have tricked ourselves into slavery.

Judging by what Daegon Magus says, impersonating other entities is easy to do in the non-physical (I was actually told that in a dream) - so I can see how parasites might disguise themselves as guardian angels

Incidentally, I believe this would be of interest

http://roage.com/res/html/CheatSheetMarkV.html

It has a section explicitly talking about Natural Law contracts.

So ... what do ?
We renege our contracts and demand better ones ? This is what seems logical.
So how does one go about it ?

That's pretty deep and all over my head. I will have to read it even tho I really don't know what it says lol. Perhaps when I can't sleep haha.

Contracts imply a system of enforcement and arbitration. And if a contract is bad from the beginning, it is void ab initio. So no issue of reneging. I think the mantids are built to respect the law but they may take advantage of ignorance. The angels may be loving and terrifying but they have to respect our choices (all speculation, but I'm in a speculative mood. Caveat emptor and all that jazz.

There's a lot of stuff that will pop up soon in the MM community, my gut tells me. We humans have a quasi hive consciousness, with the 100th monkey, suddenly the group-think will shift gears.

Quote from Capt Melonhead on October 5, 2021, 7:58 pm

Hello,

Thank you very much, this is interesting to hear.

But actually, I thinking more in terms of being farmed for loosh.
If we ignorantly signed up for it, there must be a way to opt out.

Quote from Capt Melonhead on October 5, 2021, 8:21 pm

Contracts imply a system of enforcement and arbitration. And if a contract is bad from the beginning, it is void ab initio. So no issue of reneging. I think the mantids are built to respect the law but they may take advantage of ignorance.

Actually that's kinda what that article explains.
Even if there's no contract, if you act like there is one, it will be assumed one exists.

Quote from Capt Melonhead on October 5, 2021, 8:31 pm

This is wild, you guys have to read it

http://www.trickedbythelight.com/tbtl/Feedback-on-Wayne-Bush-Interview-with-Man-Who-Met-A-Demiurge-During-NDE.html